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Thanks in advance! The more you feed them, the more they are going to poop. Tomorrow Im going to do the same thing with the bio media in the Fluval canister. For most people, this isnt an issue, it entirely depends on where you are located and your water source. On Friday, I did a 40% water change using Seachem Prime again. After reading your article- I think that I am technically going to have to start the oldest tank over so I will be cycling all of them. All four items produce bubbles to oxygenate. Now when you say chemical filtration needs to be replaced once it is used up out of the sponge, rings, and carbon is the carbon the chemical filtration? It doesnt necessarily mean that all your fish will this one might have been extra sensitive. When it comes to advice from the professional on YouTube, I agree with your reasoning. Id double check your nitrate testing, following the instructions closely, as tap water often has some degree of nitrates in it anyway. I guess its hard for them to know the exact amount. as a reminder incase it is useful, I have a 60 gal tall tank, cycled 2 weeks with one tetra, added a second tetra at 3 weeks, a third tetra at 4 weeks, and 5 danios in the 5th week. Thanks Ian! You would be best suited reaching out to a planted tank forum (plantedtank.net is pretty great) and asking there. Ill write a report in a bit . Nitrate at 0, Nitrate at 0 (adjusted for my 5 ppm tap water)? Theres literally nothing visible on them.. Wow, no wonder it was such a long process, coming from stumps at a rate of 1mm a week is sloooowww. I assume your pH and temperature levels are okay? Fish is one of the most consumed seafood and it is a highly perishable food product. If none are present, keep repeating the previous step and testing for nitrates daily until you get a positive result. Got some Seachem Prime ordered and on its way! I really didnt know much about the cycle at first because in keeping fish 50 years ago nobody did. I did see a small amount of nitrates but I think that may have just been my tap water. But for a beginner, a fishless cycle is by far the best way to go. PH 7.2-7.4, I just tested again and The reason why I dont really cover jump starting with bottled bacteria because it can be hit and miss as to whether or not it actually speeds up a cycle. I am unfamiliar with Nitrifix, it isnt a product that I have come across in the United States. Feel free to drop me a line here if you have any further questions. How often should I do the 50% changes? If it takes 2 weeks, go with that. If your dose is 5 ml, then in an emergency, for 2.5 ppm, you would put in 15 ml, three times the amount (or 12.5 ml if you want to be exact). If your pH IS swinging, then this guide should explain KH simply. I just finished a round of kenaplex and hes still the same. Those filters with areplaceable cartridge are somewhat of a scam since they lock you into replacing the filter, an ongoing cost which sees you returning to petsmart each time. Leave it here for 2-4 weeks. The filter floss which is rinsed holds the watse. I would like to send you a picture of the tank, maybe you may see something Im not. It sounds like you are doing the best you can with the water changes, I hope your catfish pulls through! Hooray on reaching readable ammonia! Sorry, completely my mistake. It does not equate to an absence of risk, but an acceptance that residual risk will remain. As long as your water parameters are normal, you can do it as often as you need. The majority of them reported eating ready-to-eat smoked fish. On the cartridges, those are somewhat of a scam and designed to be disposable activated carbon needs to be swapped out regularly or it stops working. But the biggest question our nitrAtes have stayed at 0 for as long as weve had our own testing kit (we dont know if it was high when petco was testing it for us). 20. Im confused. Great! No Ammonia, Nitrites or Nitrate. I have a full article here: It appears that my city has very soft water, 3-8ppm per the city website. A quick question please does having a better/more efficient filter control nitrate levels better? Since the tank/community is really only about 5 weeks old, a separate quarantine seemed like unnecessary stress for the newer fish. Hard lesson learned. it sounds like you are doing all that you can. But guess what, my gentle giant goldfish are still alive. Oh you poor thing, this has been quite an ordeal for you. Ammonia never went over .50 ppm (Id dose with Prime accordingly) and I never showed Nitrites in any of my tests. I tried to wait 36 hours before water change and then the nitrate reaches 15, but the nitrites would be dangerously high (= 0.7). Its unrealistic. Nitrate Thank you so much Ian, I really appreciate it! Not only are these more accurate than test strips but considerably cheaper over the long term. Unfortunately, this can be a very slow process. Im curious, however, if the cycle has ended. I assume you want it for the claims of fin regrowth? So when measuring your nitrate levels from here on out, 5 ppm is the baseline, as opposed to zero. (Following better instructions than came with the kit) Do you happen to know if growing plants affects this cycle? But the nitrites were there, and now theyre all but gone, and I sure didnt take them out baffling. This seems REALLY long. Haha its sponge remember Id mentioned how we put a few gravel bits in the tube to baffle the current a little. But if you can get it back well under 10 each week with a 20-40% water change, you are doing just fine! Theyll get used to it. Im ready to go crazy. Funny that you say that about tinkering, today I was scrubbing and soaking some rocks and deciding how Im going to arrange them. I have some free time today so I thought Id bring you up to speed on the cycling tank with healing fish affair. If you read ammonia, you dose for it. Sure, 5 ppm of nitrite will make the cycle proceed faster but thats not what a fish-in cycle is about. . Add frozen fruits directly to smoothies, sauces, and glazes.. Hi Ian, water quality is spot on and always has been. That would be so awesome! Good luck! It sounds like you are doing all you can. Oh dear. Would clay pellets work? Now I am going to do a water test after I hear from you sometime today and see which way you would advise for me to go, QUESTIONS Also as an aside, how does the water look with different lighting? Ive found myself performing a sudden fish rescue and I had a question about seeding and what to expect. I simply popped my filter and everything else over into the new tank, so nothing changed but the glass box. Hi Ian! Oh by the way, I forgot to mention that in conjunction with the Prime, we had been using API Stress Coat to help with his fins. You want to keep nitrites as close to zero as possible. Its unrealistic to think that anything will happen within 24 hours. Needless to say, nitrites have just remained at 0. If you have a routine of 48 hours, then do whatever works for you. I added ammonia to my tank yesterday and it rose to about 8ppm- I changed 2 gallons of water and just tested it Today (24) hrs later my ammonia is .25 In the right sized, correctly stocked tank, your weekly water change should be all thats needed to stay on top of this. Should I just stay the course and keep waiting to nitrites to appear and rise? Ammonia 0-0.25 On the stocking part, Id do 4 or more for a betta sorority. In other words, I am looking for advice as to the maintenance I should do right after the cycle is completed to get caught up on cleaning, and also a good steady routine to follow once I can turn to a regular schedule. In the end it was a success and I am very grateful for the guidance you have given in a time of worry. And you are correct in your thoughts, Melafix and Primafix, shouldnt be what kills the fish, its the disease that they are attempting to treat. Started with 4 fish ( buy 3, get one free). I have a 75 gallon Cichlid tank with 12 small Cichlids in it. I have only 6 fish in a 93 gallon cube, no coral yet. You sure have come a long way from stumbling across neglected fish! Also, I get what you mean with your cats! As for the bacterial supplement, there is debate as to their effectiveness. In an emergency, a fish-in cycle might be your only option. Dont worry, that colored water (its called tannins) from your driftwood wont affect your test kits. I should have been more clear that a local fish store that only sells fish is the way to go. I will probably stop now with the 3 tetras and 6 danios in my 60 gal tank until the cycle completes then I will get back on track with building my tetra school- I will likely drop 5 females together to balance out the ratio and maybe go back to using prime for a few days to negate any rise in ammonia from adding 5 tetras at once. In a panic I went and bought seachem stability to use in the tank. There is some sort of white plastic base I could leave in? The shelf-life of fish could be extended by using MAP containing CO. which has been shown to retard the growth of spoilage and pathogenic bacteria. Some people find success by adding a beneficial bacteria booster like Tetra Safe Start, but I have seen tanks cycle just as quickly without it and in my own experiments, could not conclusively get a tank to cycle quicker with beneficial supplements. I also tried to really hose up some of the left over food. Angel plus thats in there. To make sure, grab your nitrate test kit. EXTRA note: This evening the tank looks Even More Cloudy. Water chemistry continues to be good. Zip. I appreciate it. Its common for tapwater to contain up to 5 ppm of nitrates, so you are likely right that this came from your tap water. Such preservatives used in food can be divided into three types: Thyme essential oil, Cinnamon oil, oregano, Inhibit Microbial growth, reduce lipid auto-oxidation, Rosemary extract, onion juice, grape polyphenols, Decrease in Lipid oxidation, microbial spoilage, increase in shelf-life and quality, antimicrobial activities against bacteria, against Listeria monocytogenes; Clostridium sporogenes, Listeria monocytogenes; Salmonella typhimurium; Shigella, Butylated Hydroxyanisole (BHA), Butylated Hydroxytoluene (BHT), and Tertiary, antimicrobial properties against bacteria (predominately gram-negative), fungi, viruses, and protozoa, and controlling color, odor, and lipid oxidation, Effective against molds, yeasts, and aerobic Gram-negative bacilli. Okay, okay now I understand, and yes Ph and temperature are set. The following day our nitrites were at 0.25ppm and ammonia was at 4ppm. Boy I wished I had found this site earlier, Inherited lotsa guppies living in squalor except for adding water and fish food nevah changed the water. While you are doing that, you should have a chat with the local fish store on your issues. I almost resigned and lost sleep because of worrying about my fish. The ammonia was definitely yellow no more doubt that it had any green tint. My filter takes two cartridges and I am wondering if you would suggest I change one (wait for the BB to grow and then change the other), leave it until I am fully cycled, or if I should just rinse it out with tank water? All juveniles. I basically started again with the last remaining danio. I was wondering what was going on! The modern type of lup cheong has a comparatively long shelf life, mainly because of a high content of lactobacilliso high that it is the Japanese do consume a fish-based log called kamaboko, which could be considered a type of sausage. Hooray! Discover all the collections by Givenchy for women, men & kids and browse the maison's history and heritage Once you have confirmed these basics are correctly listed, I can give you better advice on how to proceed. Such packages are often termed modified atmosphere packaging (MAP) and vacuum packaging (VP). and keep testing until they show up. For the test tubes, read them outside in daylight, unless you are using daylight light bulbs, (around 5500k) which are not common in homes, youll see inaccurate colors. I have also seen tanks cycle in under two weeks without it. Nitrites 0 and Nitrates 5 or I guess 0 given my Nitrate-y tap water? I removed the wood, and put a ceramic coffee cup in for him to hide behind. I am currently on day 10 of cycling with my betta, and I still only see ammonia. Okay, so if there is only a sponge in the tank, and recently, then this is the only place that bacteria can call home so it was an essential addition. To confirm, you are testing in natural daylight? What the scariest part is, is somehow she fell on the floor which is a huge fall (my dresser is about 4ft high, then my mom used one cup to scoop her into the other and dropped her in her tank! You act according to your tests. I brought a water sample with me to the pet store and had them check it with liquid tests. In which case, it would mean the tank *wasnt* truly cycled right? Boiling or storing 50+ gallons of water at a time and carrying it to your tank? If you can understand the nitrogen cycle, then this should be a walk in the park! I was expecting to have really high nitrates and have to perform a water change soon. I thought Id give an update on my fish-in cycling and Betta. Now heres my dilemma for the last month my readings have been: We perform 50-75% water exchanges weekly with thorough vacuuming of particulate food debris we call fuzz balls after each exchange we add stress coat & quick start & half recommended API recommended salt. Sorry for two different comments, my eyes are getting worse and worse! The good news is that as the beneficial bacteria have not died off (testing the water should reveal no ammonia or nitrites) then you wont need to go through the cycle again. If you want to use a sponge filter, Id add both the sponge and the pebbles in a filter media bag, place the new sponge filter on or next to it and place a airstone under the media bag, to ensure current flows through and keeps the beneficial bacteria alive. Its been a couple weeks and Im getting readings of 5-10 ppm Nitrates. I am now able to actually enjoy our aquarium instead of stressing and worrying about it. The majority of them reported eating ready-to-eat smoked fish. Goodness wonder if they are having trouble seeing the food? Unfortunately, if you do have soft water, this means you need to monitor something else in your water: KH. Im not saying this to be petty, its important to figure out what is happening here as if its seachem prime and its concentrated then you are at risk of dosing too much and harming your tank. 2 drops per gallon would be considerably more than 1ml/10gallons. This is what I would have expected the cycle to look like. With how slow it is going I have been scared to throw tap water in and slow things down further or start me over. If its not algae, I am not sure what reset my cycle, I was not aware of the cycling thing when I started so I did not measure the water parameters except PH then. I do have a question though.. Dont really want to kill this one! Thanks for the feedback Mark, Im glad the info helped you. I just would like to verify if what she said was correct. Hi Ian, Im back! I might have found my new hobby! I checked the water parameters many times during the three weeks at the pet store, (they used liquid testers) and was told that it was safe to add fish. So we keep putting in new Prime every day right (at 24 hour intervals)? The nitrite will show a reduction soon, especially as your nitrate levels start to rise quicker and quicker. I have well water (pH in the mid 7s and up) with a water softener. Congratulations on your patience! The only parameter of the three that should steadily increase is nitrates, that are then reduced through the water change. Let me know if I should switch to a different filter sooner or if you see no harm in sticking with these until the cartridges I bought run out. Someone else mentioned Seachems Stress Guard, which I do set more store by. A double dose refers to doubling the amount required to treat all the water in your tank in a single time. At a pH of 7 or below, virtually none of the detected ammonia will be of the toxic variety. Ive already found answers to many of my questions elsewhere on the FishLab blog, but if I think of anything else I need to know about cycling, I know who to ask! No need to do a 100% water change. I took champ my half moon better out of his 10 gallon due to fin tears that have not gotten better over the last 8 months. In an ideal world you would want to keep it below 10. And regarding Ammonia, I rely on API test kit primarily, Seachem Alert is only used as secondary. I did not introduce any ammonia at all..I just set up the aquarium and used topfin water conditioner ..and a root tab for plants coz Im using the topfin gravel.. I read somewhere once that their fin regrowth is sometimes like a one step forward, two steps back affair, and I think its sort of true. This is very helpful. Yesterday I tested and got all the same numbers. I just really want to understand how it all works! All good Catherine, I created this site to help others to the best of my abilities . Ooooh lost mail is the worst. Are you monitoring this too? AMMO .25 (both kits) this has also remained the same barely .25 no nitrites and ammo is not rising! Good luck! It never mentioned anything about the nitrogen cycle. Right now I have 0 nitrate, 0 nitrite, .5 ammonia, and pH is 8.2. Ive had my 40l tropical tank for a few years but have never been successful in keeping fish alive in it ???? Unfortunately, the fish-in cycle requires you to wait for your fish to produce enough ammonia. If I was in your shoes, I would continue to wait. I have no experience mixing prime and stresscoat together, most people either use one or the other. I am going to test again when its light outside and if I see 0 everything or .25 ammo and 0 nitrites and nitrates should I do a water change or just let it be? That must be so confusing! I would double check your test kit has not expired and isnt faulty ammonia wont take long to build up to measurable levels. Do you think TWO partial changes a day say morning and night would be beneficial or unnecessary, in terms of his healing? The nitrate hasnt come from the ammonia being converted to nitrite then nitrate, it is there from the start. Were also wondering when we should clean his filter, which you know is only about 2 weeks old. I guess what I am trying to say, in a rambling way, dont stop asking questions . He looks physically fine, swimming fine, and yes, water parameters all ok (zero etc), but hes been spending the last couple of weeks basically acting like his cory tankmates! Tomorrow I will begin testing for ammonia. Unless your ammonia or nitrite levels are elevated, there is no reason to over-dose. I understand I cant use prime with tss. Thank you!! If nitrites are zero and nitrates zero (or low) then you are right at the start if the cycle. Even if I lose these fish I would at least like to make my tank safe for future ones. I think I can get it cheaper online, but my liquid gH/kH test just got lost in the mail, so I guess well see if a nitrate test can actually make it to my door or not. I was ready to take him back but after calling the shop I was told that he should be fine as hes a hardy type of fish. It wont affect your cycle. Theres no need to feel bad about feeling sad, I do too when I lose a fish. The second thing relates to ammonia toxicity. Nitrates between 5-10ppm. In fact, its only a good thing, especially if you have cleaned the tank to remove any additional food or poop. What is really confusing me is that the ammonia shoots back up after a water change (maybe takes a day), Nitrites stay at 0, but nitrates are going up as well. The tank is now bare-bottomed with plenty of plants: big Java ferns, Anubias and Pothos. And the quick response to questions. Welcome back to the hobby! Well here I am again, a month later. I highly recommend taking a before and after photo, youll be amazed at just how different the aquarium looks once the plants fill out. For example, rainbow trout can die after experiencing just 0.16 ppm of ammonia over a 96 hour period. On the ammonia route, prime converts ammonia to ammonium, which is still readable by many test kits, even though its considered harmless to fish. And I skipped the bio on the wc. Natural light is best for color matching. so Ive been on this ride doing the fish in cycle. What is fish-in cycling? The method has proven to be effective in extending the shelf life of fish. Thats a good question! Hi Sondra, that certainly is odd. Happy new year! Hello, I am using seachem prime, I was going to use the top fin water conditioner for chlorine when I top off the water. The only way to monitor the cycling process is to test for it. Of course, this will vary according to fish and sensitivity, but in my opinion, nitrite is absolutely dangerous and I would never recommend anyone do a fish-in cycle with 5ppm of nitrite. It shouldnt take too long for them to drop since the beneficial bacteria is already in your filter. Again, it can take longer than a week for nitrates to appear. Add water to the tank, and dont forget to dechlorinate it with your water conditioner first. The worst thing about cycling is that it takes time. If you have identified that your fish was struggling with hypoxia then it sounds like you have already done some great research. But I guess I have no other choice. So waiting for three days or a month after the tank is cycled, how does that make a difference? Also should I still be using prime. It might be worth testing after the water change, to make sure that the levels are not dropping down to unreadable levels. Since addressing the ammonia, hes stopped coming to the surface for air, and seems to be improving, but hes still gulping a lot. I didnt think it would, but you never know sometimes these things just go wrong for no reason at all. Id seek expert advice on whether this is the case, as there is nothing worse than dealing with a water leak with a fully stocked aquarium. I imagine that would take at least a month more, but we didnt think it would be good for him to go without a filter the entire time. This way well know id something inside your tank is responsible. More gardening at Heather's, more feeding the fish. Waited 1 day and tested the water, chemistry is good. I did have to put my fish back in the system, because i did not have a suitable quarantine tank. Thanks for clarifying, I have never seen this before. I dont have any rock or anything to put in it. Unless you forget to condition the water. It sounds like quite a round-about journey through the cycling process. I got a Seachem ammonia alert to stick to the side of the tank today, to use in addition to all the test strips. Stage 3 A second type of beneficial bacteria eat the nitrites and convert them to nitrates, which are harmless in small amounts and are removed from your aquarium each time you perform a water change. How regularly are you performing these water changes? No donation necessary.I do this because I want to help out others entering the hobby. I think Ill give that a test run. I never tested my tap water before putting conditioner in it. The EASY Way (Beginner Friendly! As for the gravel, I suggest grabbing a gravel vac, this device will clean your gravel as you change the water at the same time. I crashed my cycle back in October and cant seem to recover it. The start and end are the same, but the middle gets a little odd. He loves the sand but she read you should totally replace it every two weeks but wouldnt that slow down the cycling of this new tank (we added lots of yucky filter juice and quick start to try to speed up this new tank). It wouldnt cut it in a planted tank, or other setup where there is lots of debris floating through the water. Ammo .25 Im so relieved that everything appears to be going smoothly and I have my fingers crossed that you reach measurable levels of nitrate soon! I wish to tell you about my series of unfortunate events and encounters with fish people who seemingly have no idea of what they are talking about. Ones little smaller and one is slightly bigger. Complete 3 Stage Filtration System: In Stage 1: The filter cartridge floss screens out dirt and debris. Its an interesting field in that there is no universally agreed upon correct way to do things and I try to distance myself from these debates. Unfortunately, from here its pretty much a waiting game while it might test your patience, it will be worth it! It sounds like your cycle is well on its way. My significant other was a bit perplexed by the rock scrubbing and the boiling wood, though. Is this bad? Most importantly, I want to thank you for taking the time to write this article! A big thank you to you! If its a physical injury, all you can do is leave it to repair naturally, paying extra attention to keeping the tank very clean and water parameters normal there isnt such a thing as casts for broken fins. Hi Joshua, you follow dosing instructions as per the bottle the exact amount will vary according to the amount of water your tank holds. I dont really understand this question but here are my thoughts based on what I think you are asking. Thanks for the informative webpage. Cycling for now over a month. However, fungal growth is a major problem and microbiological changes in fish also occur during its processing such as the salting and drying process. Reading under indoor lighting can make the results look off, which can really make this process seem harder than it is. For example, plants can reduce tanks, so can chemical filtration. Most baked goods freeze well, particularly if they are still fresh when popped into the freezer. 8 ounces (pre-smoked fish weight) 7 ounces (weight after smoking) 8 minus 7 = 1 ounce (weight loss) 1 ounce divided by 8 ounces = 0.125; 0.125 x 100 = 12.5% (total weight loss) This smoked fish would be slightly dry after canning. Given you are not a beginner, Im actually leaning towards thinking your tank is cycled and that something is depleting the nitrates. While it can look like they enjoy being pushed around the tank, they can find this really stressful which can lead to them becoming sick. If it *is* soft water, they will have a system already in place to deal with the pH swings. This is a judgment call only you can make. Its a tricky one since for fin rot, you want to keep the water as pristine as possible, but to cycle, there also needs to be a degree of ammonia. ginger, and pepper. Ive been looking at the results from my master test kit by the window to ensure natural light. Keeping up with water changes. But by following this guide, you give them the best possible chance. I like your tape advice. Or do our daily water changes somehow give afalse positive? Ill try to keep it there. Comprehensive Reviews in Food Science and Food Safety. 0-.25? But if you have a choice, then you shouldnt be cycling your aquarium with fish inside. So I have a dumb question. Prime can be dosed up to 5 times safely. Dont worry, a fish-in cycle is a rite of passage that many beginners go through. As my water conditioners I used Tetras complete care kit that has 3 different tablets. Generally, fresh fish remains in good condition for a period of 5-7 days if kept at a refrigerated temperature of 4 1C. Your fish live in gunky water. Its kinda their thing. 5ppm Nitrates. The plants turned dark green and sprouted new leaves, and the fish have also brightened in color except the glass catfish, who is staying nice and clear. If the tank is indeed uncycled then that will lead to further complications and should be dealt with ASAP. Actually I think weve never talked about Gups filter before (Betta is the one with the sponge). The good news is that once the cycle is done, the testing only has to be done once or twice a month and its more so you see how your tank is progressing and to identify any problems before they arise. I prefer to dose daily rather than every 2 days, just in case it wears off sooner because you didnt dose quite enough, or you are running late. Best way to test this is to do a trial run, skip feeding him for 4 days and watch closely to how it fairs. Last night the readings were It sounds like the filter may have been the issue its hard to narrow it down because you were doing so many fixes at once. For you, its a weird one. In this instance, I would advise you to do whatever you feel most comfortable with. This way, when they add a new fish, they are fully prepared for any spike or adjustment that occurs. Right now I am cycling a 10-gallon tank should I follow your fishless cycle directions or should I do it with the fish? For the last 2 weeks, I am seeing only Nitrates, no Ammonia and No Nitrates. Also, Do you think 2 sponge filters are enough to handle the load of about 20 kop fry with no gravel? If ever I feel like hauling over RO/DI water from the the system at my grandmothers house Id like to try to pull off a small one someday. This will also produce ammonia at a faster rate. Im currently on my 3rd week of a fish in cycle. I know many people have success with tetra safe start, but whether or not you add it is entirely up to you. Yes, it was mentioned (anecdotally) by a friend who felt it really helped her Bettas fin regrowth. Either way at what point do I need to do water changes? Thats all we can do for now. I consider it to be the best aquarium water conditioner available. Anything else I should be doing or not doing? Not a problem. Just used the API Stress Coat+ water cond. Both of these are fine. As to whether they fight or not, sometimes it just comes down to personality. Try testing your water straight out of the tap. In addition to being somewhat of a scam and costing you money on an ongoing basis, each time you throw them out, you are tossing out the beneficial bacteria you waited so long to appear. Simply raise the temperature and add your fish. So in this case, 5 gallons would be a half dose. Are you saying to take the carbon out for good? After reading your column I performed my weekly water exchange, but only 25% and added API Tap Water Conditioner. Personally, I have cycled 3 tanks in the last 18 months and I have never used Prime at all. After a day or so of adding the leaves, luna is back to her normal self! Should I continue adding Seachem stability or no? When he finished his course, we started very gradually increasing the amount of tap water, and decreasing the spring, because really spring is expensive! Im already enjoying the heck out of it, my family and friends keep finding excuses to come over and see the tank. If I was in your situation, Id keep testing for another week or two, waiting for these to appear. This will give them the best chance of survival. The heat treatment destroys all heat sensitive bacterial and spores, inactivate the enzymes, and cook the fish so that the product remains acceptable to the consumer after prolonged storage without refrigeration. Every successful ending deserves to be shared with the people helping you get there. Can we just not? Both of these can be done with fishy in the tank. Is it possible the 50% water changes are keeping your nitrites down below measurable levels? What does this mean for Bettas whole cycling thing and how should we proceed please? Hey! Maybe the neglected fish found me, I think I needed a hobby. Thank you for your quick, kind and understanding reply. We had them when I was little but I was never responsible for them and back then no novice really knew anything about the nitrogen cycle. I'll admit at this point with my fish continuing to seem healthy and happy and my numbers the exact same, I added 2 more Glo fish Tetras on September 2. I would appreciate your thoughts about that, thanks. You shouldnt be disposing of the filter media, this is where your beneficial bacteria live. Ammonia has begun to drop to a about .35ppm, Nitrites have been present for 4-5 days and have spiked to 1ppm or possibly a little higher. I have tetra safe start and also got fluval cycle (i read great things) I might try that before starting all the way over.. With the safe start or any live bb is it safe to add with the fish in it? In regards to the 2 tanks I am cycling with fish I am still only seeing the smallest traces of ammonia .25 for the last 3 weeks, I have been dosing with prime and even have a few pebbles at the bottom of the tank in hopes that would have raised the levels but nothing. Consider it like vacuuming your carpet. Based on my knowledge of tanks and not ponds I would say its far more likely that something has happened to kill the good bacteria in the tank, which would cause the cycle to reset. Hi Don, it sounds like your cycle is progressing nicely. Also, do you have any advice on how to properly mix in water conditioner or prime when doing a 25 % or 50 % water change? I also use this site as an excuse to spend lots of money on testing and reviewing different aquarium products! I would hate to think Im holding up the process somehow. I hope that makes sense. The conclusion was that for so long as he was still healing, he needed the water to be that clean. The alternative is to leave it a few days, see what happens to your nitrate levels. 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